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Concerned Clergy Podcast February 18, 2026

Reverend Alexander & Pastor Greene discuss current events affecting the Circle City and beyond through the lens of the Black church.

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The Concerned Clergy hosts dedicate this episode to honoring Reverend Jesse Jackson, who recently passed away, opening with his iconic "I Understand" speech about growing up poor. The show covers critical legislative battles in Congress like the SAVE Act (requiring extensive documentation to vote, disproportionately affecting women and minorities) and in the Indiana Statehouse like SB 285 (criminalizing homelessness with $500 fines). Reverends Alexander and Greene emphasize making voting plans for the May primary given expected intimidation tactics including potential ICE and National Guard presence at polls. A significant portion addresses immigration rhetoric versus reality, with callers debating whether immigrants drain resources, while hosts counter with facts about detention costs, tax contributions, and indigenous peoples' prior claim to the land. The episode examines Christian nationalism's hypocrisy, questioning how self-proclaimed Christians can support policies harming vulnerable populations while supporting Epstein-connected individuals. Throughout, the hosts stress moral courage in speaking truth to power, the importance of Reverend Jackson's legacy in paving the way for Obama's presidency, and the need for community solidarity in resisting oppressive legislation during Black History Month.

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TOPICS DISCUSSED


0:48 - OPENING: REVEREND JESSE JACKSON TRIBUTE & LEGISLATIVE THREATS

- Opens with Jackson's "I Understand" speech about growing up poor without insurance, in three-room house with outdoor bathroom
- Jackson's presidential runs paved way for Obama, contributed immeasurably to Black history and people struggling everywhere
- Indiana legislature trying to take women back to pre-1920 (voting) and pre-1974 (couldn't open bank accounts)

4:52 - THE SAVE ACT: VOTER SUPPRESSION LEGISLATION
- SAVE Act would disenfranchise not just Black folks but many voters by requiring extensive documentation
- Women who changed names through marriage may struggle to provide all required documents (birth certificates, marriage certificates, etc.)
- Bill represents systematic attempt to roll back voting rights and make voting nearly impossible for marginalized communities

10:00 - IMPACT ON WOMEN & FAMILIES
- Women historically couldn't vote until 1920, couldn't open bank accounts until 1974
- Name changes through marriage create documentation barriers under SAVE Act requirements
- Moving state to state makes obtaining required historical documents even more difficult

15:01 - VOTING STRATEGY: MAKE A PLAN FOR MAY PRIMARY

- Don't wait for general election - vote in May primary with a clear plan
- Early vote or request absentee ballot now to avoid Election Day chaos
- Expect ICE presence, National Guard, multiple hoops to jump through at polling sites

16:11 - DON'T VOTE ALONE CAMPAIGN
- MADVoters and other organizations pushing "don't vote alone" strategy
- Take friend or family member as witness to your voting experience
- Going with others provides safety and documentation of any intimidation or irregularities

17:35 - SB 285: CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS
- Bill passed committee 8-5 (four Democrats and one Republican voted against)
- Makes it Class C misdemeanor to be homeless on streets, up to $500 fine
- Moving to governor's desk, expected to take effect July 1st if signed

28:09 - CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM'S HYPOCRISY
- Caller asks how self-proclaimed Christians can support anti-Christian policies
- Ministers need to bring moral voice to Capitol, shine light on darkness
- Politicians claim Christianity while proposing legislation that harms vulnerable people, including Epstein connections

30:15 - IMMIGRATION: RHETORIC VS. REALITY
- Trump narrative claims immigrants taking money, jobs, housing, benefits
- Reality: Building detention camps costs money, staffing costs money, housing/healthcare/food costs money
- 73% of people in ICE detention have no criminal records according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Bureau statistics

35:05 - IMMIGRATION STATISTICS & FACTS
- Most detainees (73%) have no criminal record despite rhetoric about "criminals"
- Detention system is massive expense while claiming immigrants drain resources
- Contradiction between claims and actual government spending reveals true agenda

38:14 - CALLER: "MILLIONS CROSSING BORDER"
- Caller claims millions crossing border illegally every month based on TV
- Hosts explain legal ways to cross border exist, asylum seekers have rights
- Caller insists "they" weren't coming legally, revealing racialized assumptions

40:05 - CALLER: "THEY'RE GETTING OUR FUNDING"
- Caller claims immigrants getting funding for babies and medical care Americans deserve
- Says Black ancestors paid and died to build country, "these people just walked over"
- Hosts challenge zero-sum framing and remind Indigenous people are true original inhabitants

45:07 - RESPONSE TO CALLER: INDIGENOUS LAND & TAX FACTS
- Europeans are the actual interlopers, Indigenous peoples were here first
- Immigrants pay taxes into system but don't collect Social Security benefits
- Facts contradict narrative that immigrants drain resources without contributing

49:53 - IMMIGRANTS PAY TAXES WITHOUT COLLECTING BENEFITS
- Documented fact: Immigrants pay into Social Security without collecting
- Pay sales tax, property tax (directly or through rent), income tax
- Contribute billions to system they cannot access, opposite of draining resources

52:17 - MORAL VALUES IN LEADERSHIP
- Importance of having leaders with actual moral values versus those who claim them
- Need for accountability and truth-telling in face of hypocrisy
- Community must hold elected officials to ethical standards

54:32 - CLOSING: JACKSON LEGACY & LOCAL RESPONSE

- Disappointment with local media/leadership response to Jackson's passing
- Working on clips and greetings from family members to honor his legacy
- Jackson is icon who deserves better recognition from Indianapolis community

57:26 - FINAL THOUGHTS & CALL TO ACTION

- Continue honoring Jackson's work for justice and equality
- Stay engaged with legislative fights and voting rights protection
- Community solidarity essential in resisting oppressive policies

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