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HoosLeft Podcast #152 - LIVE w/ Carrie Syczylo for HD60

The Monrovia coffee shop owner joins the show to talk about the secretive Google data center, the housing shortage, and extraction politics.

SUMMARY:

It’s “Ladies Week” on HoosLeft. One week out from Election Day, Scott sits down with Carrie Syczylo, co-owner of Farm House Brew coffee shop in Monrovia and the Democratic nominee for Indiana House District 60 (portions of Johnson, Morgan, and Monroe counties). Carrie and Scott open on tariffs squeezing small coffee shops before widening into the data center looming over her hometown: a Google facility that spent years hidden behind the code name “Project Louie” while local officials signed NDAs, now expanding from four buildings to nine as AES Indiana builds out the power infrastructure to serve it. Syczylo — who has led local opposition to the project since it surfaced — and Scott trace that desperation upstream: Scott argues Indiana’s communities are being pitted against each other for scraps of tax revenue precisely because Governor Braun’s 2025 property-tax overhaul gutted their budgets, leaving them to accept developments they don’t want just to get anything at all, and Syczylo agrees, adding her own layer about communities growing too fearful of density and neighbors to say no. The two connect that same extraction logic to vouchers draining public school funding (while rural districts get none of the “school choice” benefit) and to privatized utilities squeezing ratepayers, and Carrie makes the case that removing her incumbent opponent’s Republican supermajority from office is the only way to stop what she calls Hoosiers being “gaslit” by officials who took an oath to serve them and signed away their voice instead.

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Carrie Syczylo: https://www.carriecareshd60.com/

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WHAT’S INSIDE:

00:00:21 Introduction: Ladies Week

Scott recaps last week’s “Fire Week,” previews an all-women guest lineup for the week ahead, and introduces tonight’s guest: Carrie Syczylo, co-owner of Farm House Brew in Monrovia and the Democratic nominee for Indiana House District 60.

00:02:59 Welcoming Carrie Syczylo

Carrie joins the show for the first time; Scott had previously met her husband Michael at an IU College Democrats/Rural Summit event in Bloomington, and the two open by talking about that event and pouring one out for Michael’s since-shorn beard.

00:04:39 Tariffs and the Price of Coffee

Carrie details how tariffs on South American coffee (coffee prices up roughly $20 per five pounds) and rising fuel and delivery costs are squeezing a small coffee shop already operating on thin margins where $8–9 cups put daily visits out of reach for many regular customers.

00:08:03 Third Spaces and the Giving Trailer

Carrie explains why she grew up believing in community spaces — crediting the teachers and small-town restaurants of her childhood in Shelbyville — and describes converting her shop’s old mobile coffee trailer into a “Giving Trailer” (need something, take something; have something, bring something) after last year’s SNAP benefit cuts.

00:14:23 The Housing Affordability Crisis

Carrie and Scott discuss a housing market with no entry point for first-time buyers — no lending for starter homes in the $100,000–$200,000 range, new construction skewing toward $350,000-plus “McMansions,” and an average first-time homebuyer age now around 41.

00:18:09 Why Builders Won’t Build Starter Homes

Scott argues builders build to profit, not to need, and the two discuss incentivizing developers and local economic development corporations to prioritize smaller, more affordable, character-driven housing.

00:21:22 AI, Automation, and Data Centers’ Information Vacuum

Scott raises AI’s threat to entry-level white-collar jobs; Carrie pivots to the lack of transparency around data centers’ water use, environmental impact, and backup diesel generator noise — information communities aren’t getting from officials or the companies themselves.

00:24:47 Project Louie: How Google Hid Behind an NDA

Carrie recounts how the Monrovia data center operated for years under the code name “Project Louie” before it was revealed to be Google, while local elected officials who’d signed non-disclosure agreements couldn’t tell constituents what they knew.

00:27:01 What Would a “Good Neighbor” Data Center Actually Look Like?

Asked whether tech companies could actually benefit host communities, Carrie says she’s opposed the Monrovia project from the start over environmental impact and loss of rural character, while promising to credit Google if it does something genuinely good (it has put solar on the Monrovia library and a school building).

00:31:24 Community Standards and the Race to the Bottom

Carrie calls for every community to adopt written, enforced standards for incoming businesses, arguing that without them, developers simply move on to the next desperate locality — describing Monrovia’s project growing from four buildings to nine as “what extraction looks like.”

00:32:30 “I’d Rather Have a Data Center Than More Homes”

Carrie relays a local elected official’s comment preferring a data center to more housing, and challenges the underlying fear of neighbors and density driving that preference amid a genuine housing shortage.

00:37:05 Density, Urban Sprawl, and Closing Rural Schools

Scott and Carrie discuss density debates playing out even in Bloomington, and Carrie raises Martinsville’s consolidation of several elementary schools into one campus as a case study in what gets lost.

00:39:11 School Vouchers and Rural Subsidy of Wealthy Suburbs

Carrie and Scott argue rural districts subsidize voucher-funded private and charter schools that serve wealthier suburban areas, since full per-student funding follows departing students to private schools that can reject students with IEPs — leaving public schools to absorb the costs the private schools won’t.

00:45:52 Extraction as a Pattern: Schools, Hospitals, Utilities

Scott likens the pattern to private equity stripping an asset for parts — a vicious cycle of stripping public goods down for private profit — and contrasts it with the virtuous cycle of investing in public schools and rural hospitals instead, where strong institutions employ people who then spend money back into the community, reinforcing it rather than hollowing it out.

00:47:34 Peggy Mayfield’s Record and the Real Cost of Electricity

Carrie names incumbent Rep. Peggy Mayfield’s record of voting yes on every policy that enabled the data centers and AES, and argues homeowners should be as worried about affording their electricity bill as their mortgage, with Google’s solar installations on the Monrovia library and a school building as one small, insufficient concession.

00:49:48 Capitalism, Socialism, and Talking to Rural Voters

Scott notes the irony of rural communities embracing capitalism while being harmed by the extraction it enables, and asks how to talk about this without the “socialism” label scaring people off.

00:50:52 Third Spaces, Common People of Morgan County, and Facing the Truth

Carrie shares a parable about a family tradition nobody questions (a halved turkey baked for generations, originally a size constraint) as a metaphor for reflexive partisan identity, and describes founding “Common People of Morgan County” after the 2026 inauguration to bring together like-minded neighbors across party lines.

00:56:11 The Food Pantry in Paragon

Carrie recounts volunteering at a food pantry in Paragon that served roughly 348 people in 45 minutes, and a pointed conversation with a pastor’s wife about whether faith leaders have a duty to name which policies are driving the need.

00:58:16 Hoosiers’ Civic Paradox: Low Turnout, High Volunteerism

Carrie cites Indiana ranking near the bottom nationally in voter turnout but near the top in volunteerism, arguing that channeling that volunteer spirit into civic engagement could be transformative.

00:58:58 Closing Pitch and Where to Find Carrie Syczylo

Carrie directs voters to CarrieCaresHD60.com and Farm House Brew, plus Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram, and makes her closing case against incumbent Rep. Peggy Mayfield’s voting record.

01:01:03 Show Outro

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